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by John Painz
I went to The
School of Visual Arts for college. I was very lucky, in that there
were a number of great comic book personalities working there. George
Pratt, Klaus Janson, Denny O'Neil, Carmine Infantino, Joe Orlando...
and with O'Neil there, I got the scope from a number of people who
relayed to me that it was Neal Adams and Denny O'Neil who
saved the Batman comics. Who brought out the darker side of Batman.
Well, I half
agree to that... but I think that Batman was on to a trend after
those two comic stars dropped out. I think Batman was getting too
stagnant, and the artwork was less than stellar.
And
I'll tell you, all that changed when Norm Breyfogle took over
drawing Detective Comics back in the mid-80's. His sharp line style,
his charismatic faces... and let's face it, his badass Batman was
exactly what the character needed. He wasn't wishy-washy. He was
Batman, and Norm knew what to bring to the character, to bring out
all of those dark qualities that were just sitting there waiting...
From working on
Detective Comics, Breyfogle did a number of Batman one-shots,
including Holy Terror, Dreamland, and the sequel to Son of
the Demon, Birth of the Demon, in which Breyfogle took his work
farther, painting much of the interior, which took on a more fluid
quality than his pen and ink work... and came out fantastic.
Along with
Batman, Breyfogle and gang (specifically Alan Grant) took
other characters and created new personas for the books, including Anarky,
which the duo of Breyfogle and Grant turned into a separate series,
which was just as brilliantly conceived. A new Batman series was
also sparked, called Shadow of the Bat, which Breyfogle
initiated, working the first five issues, and a number of sporadic
ones as well.
After
1993, Breyfogle left Detective Comics and worked on a number of
independent projects, including Metaphysique, Bloodshot and Prime,
some of which were not only drawn by Breyfogle, but written as well.
All of the projects were well received and given to high praise...
even though Batman collectors abound were upset at the loss of such
an incredible artist. To this day, Detective Comics still has not
found a suitable replacement.
Breyfogle's past
work has ranged from back-up stories of American Flagg
(prestigious itself), pencil and inking work on Marvel Fanfare,
Tales of Terror and Whisper... to Detective Comics and
Batman in 1987 and 1990, respectively.
But his checklist
is enormous, and as diverse (if not more-so) as any comic creator
out there, and it's to his credit. His drawing is fresh and not
recycled, something that collectors have come to accept from other
artists working in the field today. Regardless of the title, the
work is a pleasure to look at.
I had the
opportunity to ask Norm some questions about his work and his
life...
John Painz
(JP): Could you tell me who or what influenced you the most, to
decide to get into comics?
Norm Breyfogle
(NB): The single biggest influence was Neal Adams' art, especially
on Batman. I always saw comics as just one of many avenues for
illustration, though, and the main influence on my becoming an
artist at all was probably my dad drawing as a hobby before I turned
three and my parents were divorced (I rarely saw him after that).
JP:
How would you describe the direction of the industry (comic
industry), as of today, and where it might be heading in the future?
NB: It looks like
it's slowly dying, or being corporatized more and more to bad and
good effect. Bad, because every corporation wants to dehumanize its
people into cheap slaves and cogs in the machine (result: loss of
the quality that stems from personal vision); Good, because
corporations want to sell in high volume and can market product well
(just about the only thing they do well). I see more computers, less
personal vision.
JP: Are there
comic books at the moment that you're particularly fond of?
NB: Not really.
Don't read 'em anymore. I must admit I've been made a bit sour by
the cold shoulder I've been getting from this industry lately...
JP: Who are
your personal heroes? (unrelated to the comic industry)
NB: Ken Wilber,
my mother, Ralph Nader, Alan Grant, Robert Anton Wilson, George
Carlin, Alan Watts, Timothy Leary, Spartacus, the unknown Christ ...
JP: Villains?
NB: The Bush
family, almost all politicians, TV preachers, oil magnates, liars,
bigots, loud and ignorant narcissists, loud and uneducated believers
in superstition.
JP: What do
you do when you're stuck on an idea?
NB: Go for a
walk.
JP: What would
you say to a young'un if they were interested in entering this
industry?
NB: Avoid the
major companies unless you can accept the inevitable
disillusionment. Stick to your own vision as much as possible, never
let it die, 'cause you'll need it when they kick you to the curb.
JP: Have you
ever 'sold out', and if you did, do you regret it?
NB: The only ones
who have not sold out are primitive peoples. Everyone else has, to
some degree. But it is a matter of degree!
JP:
Name the last 5 CD's you've purchased.
NB: I Don't Speak
The Language, Equus, How to Succeed in Business Without Really
Trying, Beruhmte Orgelwerke Vol. 1, Brandenburgische Konzerte Vol.
1.
JP: Name the
last 5 movies you saw.
NB: I'll try, but
I watch a lot of movies! 1. Lolita 2. The Quarrel 3. The Secret of
Nicola Tesla 4. Heavy Metal 2000 5. Benny Hill in New York
JP: I wonder,
was it easy for you to find help in artists? Were their egos not so
blown up?
NB: I didn't
approach artists to break into comics. One should approach editors,
unless you're looking to be an apprentice, which I never did. Wait!
I did approach Neal Adams when I was seventeen. I'd driven all the
way to New York from Michigan (where I lived at the time) and I had
an appointment and everything, but when I got there Neal wouldn't
even come out to see me! He sent his daughter out instead. I was
very disappointed. He must have been really busy on a deadline ...
Years later, when I'd just started my first work on Detective
Comics, his daughter called me to offer me a position in Neal's
studio (she didn't know she'd met me) but I was doing Batman! It was
my pleasure to turn her down.
For more
information, original artwork or just plain 'ole curiosity about
Norm Breyfogle and his artwork, visit his cool website here - www.normbreyfogle.com
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This
interview was conducted late February, 2001.
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Published by Comics2Film
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